Master Resell Rights (MRR) is a Pyramid Scheme
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12
Master Resell Rights (MRR) is a Pyramid Scheme
8/14 Update: Today I have learned more from participants in LM how it works and I updated the article that follows accordingly; please note, the YouTube video where I read it to you is no longer the most up-to-date version of the article.
IF YOU WANT ME TO READ THIS TO YOU, CLICK HERE OR WATCH THE EMBEDDED VIDEO AT THE BOTTOM. This is no longer the most up-to-date version of the article.
NOTE: There are a lot of blog posts with similar titles that are selling MRR products and say “I used to think MRR was a scam…” then go on to try to sell it to you. I AM NOT AND NEVER WILL BE AN AFFILIATE FOR THESE TYPES OF PRODUCTS. I AM AN ATTORNEY AND ENTREPRENEUR WHO IS WELL-VERSED IN THE WORLD OF ONLINE BUSINESS AND MARKETING, PARTICULARLY FUNNELS, AND THESE ARE MY OPINIONS, PERSPECTIVES AND OBSERVATIONS.
put simply… I WOULD NEVER SELL THIS SHIT.
On to the main show…
Whew, I didn’t realize this is the turn this weekend would take until I posted a humorous Reel from last week that went viral, and had people from both sides very heated.
For Everyone: this is and always will be a safe, respectful place for you to test and try new things in your business. However, you must know that master resale rights is a pyramid scheme involving digital products, and I do not support it as a business model.
How Master Resell Rights (MRR) Functions
At the moment, there are two main online courses sold that promote this business model (a generous use of the phrase). They both operate in a very similar manner.
These MRR scams seem targeted to mostly lower-income women, particularly those without a college degree and who have children. Most of them are stay-at home parents.
These MRR sellers show you how much money they’ve made in the last week, or month, “just trying to pay for groceries” via a TikTok video or Reel. They send you to a link in their bio, which is a landing page for their opt-in, or training, which then takes you to a $7 video offer with a man named David (I’m leaving his last name out on purpose). There’s a second one that’s popped up from “Zach & Hannah” but I am not as familiar with that one. The end sales function is still the same.
How “Legendary Marketer” (LM) Works
[note: I am not affiliated with this product. Any respective intellectual property, such as a trademark (if one exists), belong to their respective owners and I do not claim any interest or right to said IP.]
14 August 2023 Update: Today I learned from someone who has purchased the up-front product how LM is selling this product.
An affiliate for LM promotes the $7 front-end product in the funnel, which is a 15-day challenge with webinar-style videos from David, LM’s founder. They unlock one video a day.
In the Day 3 video, you are notified that in order to “unlock” the rest of the videos, you must meet with a business advisor. This business advisor is allegedly there to help you create your business plan, but as you have already guessed, they are actually a sales person.
They give you 48 hours to spend $2500 USD to purchase four core training programs (their “blueprints”). My source told me the blueprints are on affiliate marketing, digital marketing, digital products, and one other she could not recall.
If you do not purchase during this 48 hour window, but you decide to purchase these “blueprints” later, you only get access to the one blueprint that is about affiliate marketing, and you miss out on the other three. It is still $2500 later, too.
I should note that if you choose not to buy the blueprints within this 48 hour window, my source said that LM does continue to unlock the rest of the 15-day challenge for you, and the full challenge is yours to keep.
However, if you do decide to buy the blueprints, they set you up with a second “advisory” meeting. In this second meeting, you are pressured to allow them to register an LLC for you in Wisconsin for $1500. My source said they sell it to you as a tax write off “because it’s within 45 days of purchase.”
As an attorney who sold a course called Lawless to Flawless™ on how to get your entire business set up from A-Z for $14 (with no high-pressure sales tactics or crazy upsells), this is insane to me. Not just because other big-box legal retailers charge you ~$100 to do this on your behalf– in the actual state you operate in (this is super important, but beyond the scope of this topic and I already covered it in detail here)– but because you can do this on your own.
States make so much money off LLC registrations, so it’s in their best interest to make it easy for you, and they do. By the way, in that $14 course, I covered so many other steps that are WAY more important than getting an LLC (like an employee identification number so you can separate your business and personal expenses with a business checking account).
The “45-day rule” is totally bogus. Tax write-offs are applicable to the year in which the purchase was made. Additionally, and I can’t believe I have to write this… but tax write-offs only help to reduce your tax liability when you have to pay taxes. You have to pay taxes when you earn income. Just gonna let that one sink in for a moment so you can connect those dots.
How “Roadmap to Riches” Works
[note: I am not affiliated with this product. Any respective intellectual property, such as a trademark (if one exists), belong to their respective owners and I do not claim any interest or right to said IP.]
From what I can tell, as I do not have a source who’s gone through this program willing to share yet, you opt-in to this one with a name and email. You are then directed to buy a $497 program. I am unsure of their sales techniques to get you to do so, but it is industry-standard to put some kind of timed incentive on such a sale to put pressure on you to make a decision. I would assume there is something like that happening.
Why MRR is a Scam…
Once you are in the course, the product that it teaches you to sell is the course you are in. So you buy the course, in order to sell it to others.
Yeah. You might need to read that twice.
They position this as such a good thing, that you buy it once and then you can continue to resell it as many times as you want for “100% profit.”
Basically, you are white-labeling the course they hand to you, and using all their templates, scripts, prompts, etc. to get as many people as you can to buy the course you just bought. There’s also a catch that puts you on the hook to pay this scam indefinitely, but I’ll get to that later.
You are both creating your own competition and cannibalizing your own marketplace the more people do this.
However, at the end of the day, the only thing you know how to sell is the course, that gave you the exact– and I mean EXACT– scripts to copy/paste. Even right down to the usernames: they are all @makemoneywith[name] or @digitalmarketer[name]
Let’s compare that to the types of digital product sales I encourage here at the D-Commerce® Academy:
- photographers, selling their presets to influencers– NOT photographers selling their presets as a product that other aspiring photographers can market and sell as their “own”
- copywriters, selling their sales page templates to service providers and coaches– NOT copywriters, white-labeling their sales page template for other copywriters with no experience, or coaches with no copy knowledge, to sell as if it’s their own
Who is Making Money Off MRR, and How?
David, the guy who originally created this MRR model and course that people are selling, is getting a portion of each course sold. Let’s just say that at the very beginning of this thing, David recruited Abigail, Betsy and Chantelle (A, B and C). ABC sell David’s course to Xander, Yasmin and Zendaya (XYZ). XYZ make money by selling David’s course to Quentin, Robert and Stan (QRS). In the meantime, David has also sold his course to Darla, Eddie and Frannie (DEF), who sell it to LMNO, who sell it to GHI.
Here’s what this looks like, since I know this is getting cray.
David is getting a cut of every new course sale, and so is each new person who sells it (ABCDEF etc.)
Within the course, there are affiliate links back to Click Funnels, etc.
The issue is, ABC, DEF, etc. don’t have any clue how to sell anything… except this course. They don’t know how to create content online, or build a brand or basically anything about business, except for the scripts this course gave them.
Oh, and I forgot to mention, the scripts are an extra $2500 on top of the $497 to get in to the course 🙃
ABCDEF, etc. are selling a course on how to run a business, but their only experience running a business is selling this course, and they only get paid if more people buy the course from them, which then teaches those people how to sell the course, but of course they’re only paid when they sell the course and its upsells… 🥵
So I think it’s a pyramid scheme, but let’s look a little closer at what’s actually going on, because these MRR sellers are adamant, and I mean ADAMANT that what they’re doing is life-changing.
You have:
🚩”Digital marketers” making extravagant promises about your earning potential
🚩 “Affiliate marketers” emphasizing recruiting new “affiliate marketers” for your sales network as the real way to make money
🚩 “Wifi Money Moms” playing on your emotions or using high-pressure sales tactics, maybe saying you’ll lose the opportunity if you don’t act now and discouraging you from taking time to study the company.
🚩”Master Resale Rights” distributors buy more products than they want to use or can resell, just to stay active in the company or to qualify for bonuses or other rewards.
👆BTW— what I just “wrote” is actually just copy-pasted from the FTC.gov website under the section titled, “here are some warning signs of a pyramid scheme.”
It’s pretty obvious that the first three things are there. But what about the last one, since they allegedly only buy the course once to sell as many times as they want for this “100% profit” they keep pushing?
I did not and will not buy these scam courses. However, it’s easy to piece together what the ongoing money grab is from the comments on TikTok videos.
My hypothesis: what these MRR courses don’t tell you up front is that there is an ongoing fee to be a member of the community, and to continue to license the course you’re reselling. To be totally transparent, this is the aspect of the process I am the least familiar with as it is seriously buried.
However, as an IP attorney, I’m well-versed in the business model of licensing your intellectual property. I assume it’s so hidden because most MRR resellers never get to this point as they never make even one sale, so there is little discussion on it.
I’ve also seen comments that say the white-labeling is basically worthless, because you can only white-label the branding and landing pages– not the actual content inside. This makes sense from David’s perspective, as I wouldn’t want people who don’t know anything about business updating my course, either. Plus, if you can’t already tell, the people selling these MRR courses aren’t exactly excited about doing the work it takes to update a course.
As a lawyer who used to advise Fortune 100 companies on FTC guidelines, I would have bailed so fast working for a company pulling this because they were about to get fined more than they made in three years, and I would have been out of a job anyways.
The landing pages the MRR resellers are pushing, which, as you can tell by now, are as unoriginal and templated as they come, lack very serious affiliate disclosures required by the FTC. If you so much as sell a can of hairspray with a 20 cent kickback from Amazon, you are required to disclose you could receive a commission. Before the link click. The FTC is very clear about this. So if this “community” and course cares so much about its resellers, why is this buried in boilerplate language that most people can’t read at the bottom of the screen?
I think these resellers would be shook to learn that what they’re doing is illegal, and comes with fines. Will @MakeMoneyWith[name] and her 17 Instagram followers get caught? Probably not. But the fact that some of these resellers are aware that what they’re doing is a liability, yet they continue to pull other people in is disingenuous, if not downright dangerous.
But Christina, WHAT ABOUT THAT MAD CASH THEY’RE PULLING?
There is no doubt that people are getting rich off MRR. But it won’t be you. And it probably won’t be anyone except for about 20 people who got in early (like, 2022) and the guy at the top (David).
The entire basis of the marketing for pretty much anyone you see promoting are these very flashy, big numbers.
But, as someone who knows conversion rates ve-he-haiiiirry well, I can tell you the math doesn’t math.
And I can already hear the MRR sellers, “yeah but that Fran woman actually did make $750,000 selling the course!” mostly because, they’ve already told me that. Several times actually.
Given the absolute unrequited (and unexplainable) devotion, I’m going to go out on the world’s shortest limb here and say that they are claiming their upline numbers as THEIR numbers, or maybe the company’s sales as their sales.
Because, no, @MakeMoneyWith[name], you did not make $6500 last week with your 90 Instagram followers and a $497 product.
Why Does this Matter for YOU?
I am and always have been here to help you foster your creativity through watching you create + sell your own products, and to see you turn your services into digital products to reduce your workload for more whitespace.
However, it’s undeniable that the entire digital products space is irreparably damaged by these MRR sellers.
This is affecting the entire online industry because it’s burning people out on what they *think* an online business actually is. D-Commerce® Academy has been especially affected, as some people have even thought my company is an MRR play.
It is not.
What’s Next for D-Commerce® Academy, and the D-Commerce® Industry?
What do we do as an industry, that has existed before this MRR shit popped up, and will exist after the people at the top go to jail? Well, maybe not jail, but “David” and friends are about to find out how expensive the legal fees are to run a pyramid scheme when their friend Mr. FTC makes an appearance at this MRR party.
Here’s what we can do, in the face of this, or any other countless “threats” to our sales (AI, a changing economy, etc.):
1. We be transparent about the products we sell and the results we get for our customers. We do not take credit for our customer’s hard work and implementation, but we do celebrate with and for them (and try to showcase our digital products as it relates).
2. We support other entrepreneurs who are selling products they created or use themself— real digital products, that have an actual end user in sight.
3. We become BETTER marketers because we have ACTUAL stories and clients and results and testimonials from our yearrsss in the industry.
If you are ready to beat the machine that is MRR, or AI, or whatevverrr is around the corner for us (it will always be something), and you know you want support to do that, I am so happy to have you here and promise to take good care of you.
If you’re an MRR seller, I don’t need to see “what’s inside,” and please know this is NOT an attack on you, your background, your character or who you are as a person. I believe YOU are the victim here, even if you don’t or won’t see it that way.
And for everyone else who is just like, “wtf did I just read?” 🤪 welcome to my ADHD-fueled rabbit-hole these past few days.
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So freaking good
Let me start this off by saying I’m 10,000% on your side and everyone should avoid these two programs. However, this article is a mess of mish moshed info. I’ve been on the “front-line” railing against this tuff on tiktok for about 2 years so I’d like to clarify a few things. Let’s start with LM (which, full disclosure, I promoted on tiktok in 2020 for a bit)
LM toes right up to the line on Pyramid scheme without technically crossing it per FTC imo. The “front end” Point of sale funnel consists of $7 challenge —> $29 Bump —> $29 marketer’s club membership. You’re correct in that they are pitched the $2500 on day 5 of the 15 day challenge. However, LM leads with “how to market anything” and teaches general concepts. It almost intentionally creates the question “but what do I promote” then on day 15 Dave goes “you might as well promote LM if you have nothing” and thats what most people do. Also because the affiliate training inside the $2500 is given by top LM affiliates selling LM. But again, they’re edited to not explicitly say “you should promote LM” but rather create the question “what should I promote?”
The way the affiliates are policed though is horrendous. Income claims, etc. and they all share their Lm earnings as “look what I made” etc. That part is spot on. However, I wouldn’t put it into “pyramid scheme” per se. Manipulative? Yes. but not overt & explicit pyramid scheme because they do lead with general education that CAN be applied to anything.
MRR (“roadmap to riches” & “Learn & earn profits online”) though is another story…
I’ve been through the MRR course (I rage bought it) and it’s appalling. Literally module 1 after the welcome “here is everything” module, is how to put your own colors & name on the existing course (which you cannot modify the core modules. You can add, but not modify the core.)
Module 2 is “how to set up your MRR funnel” for the course to sell it. There is a “systeme.io” model or for the lazy “i want a link ASAP” crowd, how to use a stan store. After that, they then go to “general” marketing modules “which can be applied to anything” as I was told, but after you just set up your MRR funnel, what else would you sell? Most people dont go through these because the “MRR besties” as I call them have their own trainings and how to make clones and they all make the same posts on short video. They go live 5 hrs a day telling everyone how passive it is and 100% profits, yada yada yada.
Again, I’m on your side, just wanted to clarify the models of the two programs. Just want you to have your ducks in a row and be 100% tight when the flack comes your way (they’re vicious)
Wow, thank you so much for the insight and for being a champion of (real) small business owners for so long. It really speaks to the lack of transparency about what these products actually are that makes them this difficult to understand. My goal was to spread awareness and foster discussions like this, so thank you for the continued insight. I am doing my best to learn about them but as ever, scammers are always evolving and changing. Thank you for your observations.
Road map to rip off is a scam, their lead magnet is 100% profit but they make money from affiliate links or from almost 15,000 people promoting their business as digital marketing consultants or now from a monthly membership that they split 50/50 between Bonnie and Clyde and the schmuck who bought road map to rip off, and the after roadmap to rip off 2.0 they’re going to have a new course for $497 that you can sell they’ve got you on that flywheel and you are dumb enough to not realize it, if the person who signed you up is no longer part of road map to rip off then you can buy their new product directly from Hannah Montana and cut out the middleman so they found some schmuck to promote their business to find another schmuck and now one of those schmucks is gone so schmuck at the bottom of the pyramid can buy from Hannah Montana. And the quality polish professionalism of road map to ripoff is horrible, 100% of the videos have been re-recorded. Plus with a little bit of effort you can find all of this training for free it’s not hard to do if I can go to the library in prison prison and pass the ethics for the bar to become a lawyer I can learn digital marketing from YouTube. They did stop their flock of sheep from making income claims, scared by the FTC who went after Adriana Villegas Infinity processing system IPS who started the 100% profit, just $39 for a website, you can look her up you’re a lawyer you’re a lawyer multiple FTC and State lawsuits.
Dom Bravaro for your information and FYI roadmap to rip off is not polished and not professional videos but all of the videos have been re-recorded for a road map to rip off 2.0 for your information and FYI.
What was Milgram’s experiment on reaction to authority?
In the study, an authority figure ordered participants to deliver what they believed were dangerous electrical shocks to another person. These results suggested that people are highly influenced by authority, and highly obedient.
For your information and FYI tell me the difference between a robber and a thief, legendary marker and roadmap to rip off Hannah Montana are different but they are both criminals.
I wanted to provide some clarification regarding Master Resell Rights (MRR) to ensure accurate information is being conveyed. In simple terms, MRR is a legitimate contract between a buyer and a seller in the digital product industry. It allows the purchaser to resell not only the product but also the rights to resell it to others. I would like to emphasize the legality of MRR and address some inaccuracies that may have arisen.
Here are key points to consider:
* Legal Framework: MRR is a legitimate business model where the copyright holder grants the right to resell the product to the purchaser. The legality of MRR depends on adhering to the terms and conditions specified by the copyright holder in the licensing agreement.
* Clear Terms: To ensure legality, it is crucial for the copyright holder to clearly outline the terms under which MRR is granted. This includes detailing how the product can be resold and any limitations or restrictions associated with it.
* Not a Pyramid Scheme: MRR is a straightforward resale arrangement and should not be confused with pyramid schemes. Pyramid schemes involve recruitment and payment structures that are inherently fraudulent. MRR is a legitimate way for individuals to resell digital products they have legally acquired.
Accuracy in information is paramount, and I wanted to bring to your attention that inaccuracies may have been disseminated. It is essential, especially in legal matters, to conduct thorough research before making statements that could impact individuals or businesses.
As an attorney, it is understood that disseminating accurate information is a fundamental professional responsibility. I trust that moving forward, your expertise will be applied diligently to prevent any unintentional misinformation that may arise.
If you have any further questions or if there’s additional information you require, I would be happy to provide more details or connect you with relevant resources.
Ensuring accurate information is vital, and I appreciate your dedication to understanding the nuances of different business models.
Dom Bravaro. I’m going to ramble because it’s the middle of the night I can’t sleep I drink milk and a bit hiccuping for almost two whole days this is my second day without sleep. I could drink half a gallon of milk at a time a gallon in a day but I get off Lee sick in this case I only drink a quart of milk so I’m not having as much of it and allergic reaction.
Dom Bravaro. Yes roadmap to ripoff is a scam in so many ways, please accept my rambling message because I am not feeling well right now. For your information and FYI road map to ripoff mrr does not include affiliate links, according to Hannah Montana however I have been verified that one way or another but if you are making 100% profit profit they are making 10% for a total 110% sale, at a minimum, they now have 22 dollar per month membership $11 split 50/50 between Bonnie and Clyde and the schmuck who bought the program of course from Hannah Montana. The system IO training is horrible, I would never sell such training not only is it unorganized, although Michelle Spark Lee Levesque has shared her updated systemio training with Hannah Montana so road map to ripoff 2.0 will have new recordings, recordings video. But the system IO training is free from systemioids or $97 and you can resell it or free on YouTube much better that you get from Eran Bucai Ivan Mana Jonathan Montoya Eartha affiliate Jacob Mitchell thn you get from Hannah Montana who is just learning it and is a beginner. And everybody has moved over to stan store so how is roadmap to riches worth $497 with the new stan stor module. Road map to rip off 2.0 is a lead magnet to their new training course which you’ll have to buy for $497 with a monthly subscription. Shhhh that’s a secret. Don’t tell the fish that there’s a hook inside. Hannah Montana never had a job in marketing she was a bar girl and selling makeup door to door to hair salons and women’s boutiques trying to get them to put makeup on shelf so she could make a commission at the checkout have you ever been to 7-Eleven or some other convenience store with all the crap on the counter that’s what Hannah Montana was doing as a commission employee. She’s a College dropout without education and marketing never was in marketing tried to print some T-shirts that she could never. She’s a bar girl getting into bar fights and met her husband getting into bar fights. They have a history of looking for suckers to cheat. Still all over Texas Mississippi Oklahoma Louisiana people love Bonnie and Clyde Clyde.
Dom Bravaro for your information and FYI Hannah Montana doesn’t have any experience she’s like a schoolgirl who studied and took notes on the three chapters for the test and it’s in study hall with her cheerleader friend and is letting her friend look over her notes so her friend can cram for the history test next Period, Hannah Montana is learning doesn’t have any experience but claim she has 10 years experience when 10 years ago she was in high school want to be cheerleader flashing her boobs on Facebook doesn’t make you a digital marketing expert being a bar girl and selling cosmetics makeup door to door doesn’t make you someone with marketing experience being a College dropout doesn’t mean you have an education in marketing she’s got nothing she’s just taking advantage of uneducated ignorant poor schmucks amazing that she found 15,000
Scams like this proliferate when people feel desperate and people get FOMO and feel like they’re missing out.
In hindsight, I’m surprised it’s taken this long for someone to mash MLM and digital marketing together. It’s an inflection point where inflation, recession and social media virality makes people feel desperate.
I’ve been in marketing for 23 years and this article is definitely mixing parts from LM with parts from The Roadmap and there is a ton of errors in things you are saying about both.
I’ve done both programs and would love to educate you so next time you post something like this it could at least have factual stuff included.
Loretta Lynn if that’s your real name, you blocked me on TikTok. It doesn’t matter whether this article is full of areas or not a road map to rip off is not worth $497 it’s not worth $49. And Hannah Montana is a scammer. Look at the new modules for roadmap to rip off 2.0 she doesn’t have any experience it’s like a school girl who took some classroom notes and gave it to her girlfriend and study hall so her friend can cram for the test next period. Hannah Montana doesn’t have any experience except being a bar girl and selling makeup cosmetics door to door to hair salons and women’s dress boutique
I think it’s wise for everyone to do their due diligence when they are looming to buy any kind of education and training program or product and as former accountants “due diligence” is our thing.
That being said without mentioning programs at this point there are and always will be bad marketers who say and do things they shouldn’t usually because they’ve learnt from the person they bought it from! As Seth Godwin once said in the first issue of a book he wrote “All Marketers Are Liars”
That being said as an owner of The Roadmap it needs clarifying that you are buying a digital marketing education and training course. The ability to resell it because you get the MRR rights is something altogether different.
Owning the course we can say in our opinion it’s good basic digital marketing training that all business owners whatever their business could benefit from to help them expand their business
At $497 (plus relevant taxes depending where you live) is pretty good value for money
We’ve spent far more for much less
There are many other benefits such as the community which supports and helps new members
Buy from someone who will genuinely help and guide you versus someone on Tik Tok copying someone else on Tik Tok who has no clue what they are doing
David Sharpe,
I hope this message finds you well. I read your comments regarding Master Resell Rights and your associated program, and I must express my disappointment in the unprofessional and degrading tone you’ve taken. As a business owner who values professionalism, your remarks were not only disrespectful but also detrimental to constructive discourse within the business community.
It is disheartening to witness a figure of influence downplaying another business, resorting to name-calling, and labeling it as a scam without providing substantial evidence to support such claims. As a professional in the industry, one would expect a more balanced and respectful approach, fostering an environment where businesses can coexist and thrive.
Furthermore, your choice of language, especially when addressing the owner, is not only unprofessional but also raises concerns about gender sensitivity. Degrading comments have no place in a professional dialogue, and it is disappointing to see someone of your stature engaging in such behavior.
As business owners, we understand the importance of healthy competition and the need for diverse business models. It is essential to compete on the merits of one’s product rather than resorting to negative tactics that only serve to undermine the credibility of the entire industry.
I urge you to reconsider your approach and contribute to a more positive and constructive environment within the business community.
Your influence has the power to shape discussions and perceptions, and it is my hope that you choose to use it responsibly moving forward.
Respectfully,
Jamie
Jamie-
I feel pretty confident in saying whoever that person is, it is not Dave Sharpe. Aside from the profanity there are many grammar and spelling errors. Dave Sharpe puts out tons of content that is all more polished than that and has a team of internet “gurus” at his disposal to handle these kinds of comments. Also, throughout Dave’s courses and websites he talks about other courses and programs that are out there, I’ve never heard him be derogatory when talking about his competition and in some instances he even says if LM isn’t a good fit, maybe one of those other courses could be. I’ve encountered many people online and across social media impersonating Dave and other members of his team in an attempt to rope people into their own pitches. I’d encourage anyone to disregard the comments in this section claiming to be from Dave or Zach and Hannah.
Question- does the $2500 for “blueprints “ go to the original company or do you receive 100% of that as well if you purchase the MRR?
You get $1000:commission from LM when someone buys the blueprints from your affiliate link
You get $1000:commission from LM when someone buys the blueprints from your affiliate link
LM is not an MRR, and teaches and shares a ton of different niches. Majority of their students don’t actually promote the course. No affiliate for LM is required to buy anything. At least that’s how it has been for the last year or so. (All can be looked up and verified on their website – anyone can sign up to be an affiliate)
On day 5 there is an offer where you get 4 blueprints for the price of 1. After that you can purchase any of them, at anytime separately. Yes you get access to the full challenge. The blueprints includes live calls, ongoing tech support and content review in any niche, a lot is included. I never had any hard sell for an LLC and didn’t do that.
The Roadmap to Riches and Legendary Marketer are two completely separate things. The Roadmap was created by Zach and Hannah Pippins, not Dave. They do not get a piece of anyone’s sales other than their own. And the point of the course is to learn how to brand yourself and sell your own products, not JUST to sell the course. I am using it to set up a website and sales funnel so I can sell my own digital products. Tons of other women are doing that too. Your information is way off.
Legendary marketer and road map to rip off are not completely different they are both scams in their own different way and if you can’t realize that that’s your problem that you didn’t do your diligence due diligence
With The Roadmap to Riches there are zero fees on top of the initial $497. The community is free. There are never any upsells or additional products to buy. It’s just the one course. I know because I bought it. You don’t have to believe it’s “life-changing” but at least get the correct information.
Hey dear!
Entschuldigen Sie die Verwirrung. Hier ist die Übersetzung:
“I’m lying here awake in Germany because this topic has been bothering me so much in the past few days. I’m so glad to have found your article. So far, Instagram has exposed me to all these ‘poor’ women’s accounts, and I was completely overwhelmed by it. Fascinated and shocked at the same time. I’m so glad to have read this here. Who knows, otherwise, I might have actually bought and brought this course to Germany in one or two more sleepless nights.
Sabrina this article is biased Sometime people have one bad experience and write off everything else associated with it. For instance if you had bad service at one restaurant in a chain would you notgo to another one. It is the manager, the chef etc or the restaurant not the restaurant as a whole itself. Because then Mcdonalds would be out of business by now,
Road map to ripoff is a scam and if you can’t realize that then that’s your fault, these people who say legendary marketer is a scam and roadmap to riches isn’t, one is a criminal and the other one is a thief, tell me the difference
This article is so biased and incorrect! Seemly written by someone who wants to retro fit the argument that MRR is the villain.
Correction: With ‘The Roadmap’ it’s a once off payment of $497 US and there are no upsells or pushy tactics. As a professional marketer for the last 25 years I 100% back the Roadmap Course as one of the most comprehensive I’ve ever done.
Roadmap isnt a pyramid scheme no one gets commissions. You resell the course outright and get 100% profits it doesnt trickle down. You dont have to sign anyone up. The roadmap is truly a course in digital marketing very thorough you still have to do the work.
Hi Regards ese,
So speaking as a potential next “victim” on MRR- if you’ve gained value from the course and enabled yourself to push your own (digital or otherwise) products produced by yourself or others for that matter to earn commissions – while promoting the course for others to do the same- is that not just simply referrals and WoM- marketing 101?
Of course I believe MRR sellers should be more transparent about the monthly/lifetime fee you pay in order to hold the rights to sell the product but I’m not sure I get the part of a scam here? What am I missing?
I hold a business science marketing degree and have been in financial services for more than 10 years. This is the model my company (global) has used for 175 years using intermediaries selling financial policies and investments earning a commission. And if as a purchaser of those policies you wanted to become a seller yourself (independent, networked or franchised) to also earn commissions you’d go through specialised training by the “owners” of those products in this case the financial services company. I believe this is the way of the world before our time.
It’s just in an era of a different set of goods in a different niche, very accessible and easy where some are exploiting the concept by feeding off the vulnerable through unscrupulous tactics of their own. But the model itself is nothing new.
Of course road map to riches is a pyramid scheme you are confusing pyramid scheme with multi-level marketing MLM roadmap to riches is a scam whether you can see it or believe it or not
Thank you very much for open my eyes !!!!
I mean if you’re going to write reviews on why people shouldn’t do something you should have correct information. You literally mixed up two different courses and are spreading wrong information. You’re no better than everyone else spreading fake news.
This is an opinion don’t worry about it correct information or not doesn’t matter road map to rip off is a scam just like legendary marketer they are both scams in their own way one is robber and the other is a thief tell me the difference
Courtney I’ve seen you on tiktok
If you can’t figure out that you’re being scammed and cheated you’re paying $497 for something that’s overpriced then you’re going to split $2 .50/50and affiliate links are going to Hannah Montana. And then after roadmap to rip off 2.0 you’re going to be suckered into another $497 deal with another 50/50 membership split. And if you’re mentor coach who roped you into the scam is out of the picture you’re going to pay $497 to Hannah Montana directly and you are promoting her digital marketing business you are being scammed. Road map to rip off to is a knockoff of Michele O’Neill daily pay and Adriana Villegas Infinity processing system Hannah publicly admitted it on tiktok live. Compare both side to side and Michele O’Neill knows how to build a community what kind of community do you have from road map to ripoff where over 90% of the members are inactive. Michelle O’Neill community is over 50% active active even Michelle Spark Lee Levesque community is 87% inactive. What about Eric Forner Passive Income Blueprints Colleen Michelle Tammy they were all promoting the pib community where 98% were inactive. If you don’t realize you’re being cheated that’s your problem if you are happy being cheated then go enjoy your life it’s your life do whatever you want nobody cares about you nobody’s coming to help you nobody cares about you nobody’s going to come save you your problems are your own problems and you’ve got to fix your own problems if you enjoy being a fool then do it nobody cares nobody cares about you.
Well said Courtney!
Road map to ripoff is a scam and you’re always going to have schmucks who have drunk the Kool-Aid who don’t have any experience they are fooled by false prophets or authority
What was Milgram’s experiment on reaction to authority?
In the study, an authority figure ordered participants to deliver what they believed were dangerous electrical shocks to another person. These results suggested that people are highly influenced by authority, and highly obedient.
You are so wrong and I can tell full of bitterness and hate is unreal! You haven’t got a clue never even taking any of the courses yourself what a joke of a blog!
Wow! For a “sucessful” lawer who know so well your article clearly show the opposite.
You are posting a bunch of misinformation it’s cray like you are using
You clearly doesn’t know what is a pyramid scheme. As people are buying a product (digital training) and disclaimenr are clearly visible everywhere.. I did the 15 days LM challenge and I didn’t get any pressure whatsoever to buy.. and it is bot an MMR.
To me you look like a cry baby saying a bunch of misinformation taking all your credibility away.
MRR is not a scam business model.
I purchased an MRR product (not LM or Roadmap) and through the training, I’ve learned how to create and set up sales funnels & email campaigns. I’ve learned invaluable skills for social media marketing, and what it takes to create sustainable income.
I’ve been freelance for 30+ years and even if I never resell the product, I have the skills to help my clients market their business and increase my rates.
Digital marketing is set to double over the next few years. AI will take many jobs and many people worldwide are struggling to pay their bills, and have an actual life. My mentor made $5,800 in her first month. For many people that would make a huge difference.
If you’re going to slam a business model, get your facts right. I plan to create my own products to sell with PLR and MRR because I want to help people escape the shitty rat race. That’s what this business model does if the products are of value, and teach people transferable skills.
Do an article about Simply Passive! It’s more fishy than the rest and people need to be warned! The newest MRR as of one month ago. One of the founders has a smaller following and claimed on day one of posting to have made $20k and later that day claimed to have made $75k!!!
Wow…this is all crazy…I’ve bought so many courses at high ticket prices that were so complicated and unless you are very tech savvy already, these courses are useless to anyone new to digital marketing. I could give a crap what the course developers make on selling their course, the point would be that I’ve learned more from the roadmap to inspire my own digital products at a low cost of $497 than with thousands spent on crazy technical jargon…. To criticize materials that can help anyone understand better the whole online thing is ridiculous. At the end of the day, We are all responsible for whatever ethical practices we choose to foster and deliver to others. I for one don’t give a damn what nonsense and misinformation you put out there as long as I’m comfortable with my own business goals and objectives that make money from online training and ultimately develop a great product and/or opportunity for others. End of story!
First of all, thank you so much for this blog post! I am so glad that I had a gut-feeling and PAUSED before purchasing one of those $497 courses or cough up the full $2500 for David’s course. You’re absolutely right when you say that they lead with these big flashy numbers, and yes for a time I also got looped in thinking, wow, how do they do that? I want that too! Doesn’t everybody LOL but I wanted to ask you or the group here, what would you think about purchasing one of the $497 courses just to learn about actual digital marketing? I have also seen that Google provides a certification program in digital marketing which is free but takes about 6 months. I want to work in digital marketing and learn those new skills, but I want to do so in a way where I can keep my integrity. What would you think of going that route just for the education and then applying it to my own separate business? Do you still think that what they sell is overpriced? Thanks!